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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Apr 29, 2011 4:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TDIH - One compelling reason to have ordered the Europe '72 Box

Today's TDIH show from 1972 is perhaps the most anticipated performance as I patiently wait for the September release of the Europe '72 boxed set.

Of the twenty-two shows, I think it's this Hamburg performance that has suffered from compromised sound quality more than any other show from the tour. Recently included in Skobud's DDP series, all of the existing sources, both soundboard and audience recorded, are inferior and detract significantly from the listening experience, resulting in this performance not being regarded among the best shows of the tour. This is unfortunate because the 4/29/72 Dark Star is phenomenal and I think that once the official E '72 Box hits mail boxes this Fall, this one with it's dynamite Feelin' Groovy Jam will be considered among the better performances of the song during the tour.

I think the sonic upgrade is going to raise everyone's appreciation for this performance (particularly the Dark Star) and I personally can't wait to hear this show in vault remastered sound quality...

04/29/72 Musikhalle - Hamburg, DE

I ) Playin' In The Band, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Big Boss Man, Jack Straw, Loser, Chinatown Shuffle, Me & My Uncle, Big Railroad Blues, Good Lovin', Casey Jones

II ) Greatest Story Ever Told, He's Gone, Next Time You See Me, Dark Star-> Sugar Magnolia-> Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks), E: One More Saturday Night, E: Uncle John's Band

Best Source: SBD sirmick.32877.sbeok.flac16 / AUD vernon.5250.sbeok.shnf
Sound Quality: B+/A-
Score: 94 pts*

(The sirmick.32877.sbeok.flac16 is a muddy, dull and degraded soundboard recording suffering from hiss, pitch issues and oversaturation. The vernon.5250.sbeok.shnf is a decent quality audience recording. Among all the recordings and their matrices, the Matt Vernon AUD might be your best bet. Take your pick. Both recordings are rather challenging to enjoy. However, the more you put into listening to this performance, the more you will get out of it!)

Comments: Dark Star is first verse only. Who Do You Love was not played.

Taper's Section: Good Lovin' (12/3/07)

Dark Star Timing: Dark Star theme/jam (4:38) >spacey Jam (1:42) "happy" Jam (1:27) > spacey Jam (5:54) > Dark Star, first verse (1:54) > theme (1:05) > Space with drummers > Sugar Magnolia

Notes: This rather interesting performance starts out quite a bit differently from the shows that precede it, with a nice jazzy and explorarory 9+ minute Playin' in the Band. However the balance of the first set is not noteworthy and with the exception of a dynamite rendition of Good Lovin' is somewhat less compelling. Sadly both the AUD and SBD sources, as well as the subsequent matrices are fair to poor in quality. Otherwise this show would certainly garner a higher score. This is unfortunate because the second set really heats up with another excellent Dark Star. This 30 minute spacey performance, though not quite as exceptional as several of the masterpieces from earlier in the month, soars from the opening notes. This performance features some dynamite interplay during the extended pre-verse theme intro, with some rather cool percussion sounds. Though much of this version is atonal, there are a couple of dynamite jazzy passages, with a nice Feelin' Groovy Jam starting about 7:20. There is also a fantastic jazzy segment loosely based around a Caution theme that starts around 22:00. Keith in particular really shines on this performance, contributing some of his finest work on this tour. The segue out of Dark Star is atypically abrupt as the band leaves deep space for a particularly hot version of Sugar Magnolia, followed by another excellent performance of Caution. It's really a shame about the sound quality of this one. (94 pts*)

*An excellent performance that would garner a score in the upper 90's if only the sound quality was better!



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Poster: Jim F Date: May 1, 2011 3:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - One compelling reason to have ordered the Europe '72 Box

Dunno how many sources/transfers I have of this one. A muddy sbd or two, a coupla matrix versions, and then there is that aud...I'm in the middle of Dark Star now, at "shall we go..." I'd forgotten what a real gem this aud recording is. In a tour where we barely have like 5% in aud sources, to have one this great is, well, just great.

I might be twisted but I'm sure a lot of people would agree, I personally wish, in a perfect world, that we had at least 1 sbd and 1 aud source for every show. Aside from patching purposes, I just like having that different perspective to choose from (plus I admit I like a good matrix now and then). It can make old favorites take on newer, multiple meanings. I so wish we had good aud's to represent other shows on the Europe tour. But I guess 4/29 is our best example.

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Poster: ducats Date: Apr 29, 2011 4:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - One compelling reason to have ordered the Europe '72 Box

in sdh's honor i'm breaking my chair to sugar mags (a tune i don't particular love) as i type - thx for the ducat

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Poster: Skobud Date: Apr 29, 2011 6:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - One compelling reason to have ordered the Europe '72 Box

Epic Dark Star, love the Playin' opener...Really good stuff here Dennis. I agree that it will be one of the highlights of the box set. This and 5/11 I really dig and revisit often.

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Poster: hseamons Date: Apr 29, 2011 4:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - One compelling reason to have ordered the Europe '72 Box

Cliff, I so agree with your assessment here. 4/29/72 is like drinking an extremely good montrachet on a warm, summer afternoon in Maine...

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Poster: bookends Date: Apr 29, 2011 7:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH - One compelling reason to have ordered the Europe '72 Box

indeed. if the sound quality of this JACK STRAW is any indicator, then we're in for quite a treat!